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From:madmarymc
To:anniemay  Member Icon
Date:1-Aug 17:22
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Hi Anniemay,

I only saw the last half of the interview and missed the 'trust' part so Im not sure what to make of that.

I think shes moved on or is at least feeling stronger and more postive than she would have been at the begining. I think she has realised that her own personal boundaries have been crossed and has accepted that she cant go back from there. I say this because she mentioned that once a man tells her he doesnt want to be with her then she has to move forward, or words to that effect. she said that they had been working on their marriage for sometime but in the end, the final decision was taken out of her hands. I think its possible to some degree to move on so quickly. Her boundaries had been crossed and she had a decision to make....wallow or make the choices needed to heal. Its amazing how much stronger you feel knowing that you own the choices you made.

Dont know about KnP but I think some would find it easier to leave if they were self-relient and financially secure. I say this because we hear quite alot on MA and CWI that people dont leave for financial reasons or the risk of making their children suffer financially. I think that having lots of your own money doesnt make the pain of infidelity/marriage break up any easier but it could give you one less thing to worry about. Surely this must help if you are at an incredibly emotional low?

<If you agree with your partner not to go out clubbing, and then go ahead and do it, haveyou actually amde an error in judgement or have you knowingly forced your partners hand?>

Hmmm hard one. If you'd agreed NEVER to go out clubbing then I suppose youve done enough to at least p*ss him off...i dont think its divorce enciting behaviour tho...was that the deal with KnP?? IF that was the rule (Go clubbing and our marriage is over) then I suppose I would say that you have had a choice and made a decision and have to be prepared for the consequenses that come from that. I dont think its an error of judgement OR forcing someones hand. Everyone has choices.

I think that a relationship is a relationship whether its a 'normal' OR 'celeb' one. I take what I read about celeb relationships with a pinch of salt so I'd probably know about as much about your relationship as i would a celebs (to a degree). I think that having things written about you in papers may bring difficulties to your relationship if you allow it but I think that like all relationships, you make decisions based on what you know, your intuition and the choices you have.

I think Katie was wrong about one thing tho...she said she was like marmite, you either like her or you dont....im not sure what camp im in!

Love Mary x

Discussion Title:Katie Price
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Message #:607.4 in response to 607.1
From:scatalie2004
To:anniemay  Member Icon
Date:7-Aug 16:26
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Hi,

I've lurked for a while but this Katie/Peter thing does fascinate me although I'm loathe to admit it...! The pair of them have massive trust issues. Katie Price is a woman who's made her fortune from the attention of thousands (millions?) of men and I suppose eventually, that could lead you to place your self worth in your looks alone and if that's the case, it's easy to understand why she would feel the need to go clubbing even if she'd made an agreement not to do so. It's where she gains attention. Perhaps she made the agreement to keep him happy knowing it wasn't entirely realistic. I think that although he had the wife with the looks and the job he liked, with this comes behaviour that he wasn't willing to accept and I think it was unrealistic (and selfish?) for him to stop her doing something she clearly enjoys doing. After all, she hadn't actually had an affair within the marriage so therefore, why should she suffer for his insecurities?

I think it's possible to move on from a marriage in 8 weeks if you've not been happy. I know I did when my marriage ended 11 years ago. In fact, it was probably 8 days but then I was ecstatic to be out of it finally!

I think that yes, being financially secure could mean it's easier to let go although having said that, Cheryl Cole chose not to walk away from Ashley when his well publicised one night stand came out. It still has an awful lot to do with love and I suppose you only have to look at Bill & Hillary Clinton to understand that.

If you agree to go out clubbing and then go ahead and do it, have you made an error in judgement or knowingly forced your partners hand...hmm......it depends how you felt when you made the agreement. If you agreed but sub consciously knew you wouldn't stick to it then this was something that was always going to happen. If you feel a real need to do it then sooner or later, you'll feel resentful towards your partner for making you choose. In which case, you'll probably do it and force your partners hand.

Can any similarity be drawn from a celeb relationship and a normal one? I think that largely depends on how grounded the celeb is!

Nat x

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Discussion Title:Katie Price
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Message #:607.5 in response to 607.1
From:yvannor
To:anniemay  Member Icon
Date:14-Aug 12:29
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Hmm, toughie.

I don't really follow 'celebville', but you'd have to be living in a cave not to hear about K&P. Here are my thoughts...

Was her night out the final boundry for Pete?

I don't know what was going on behind the scenes, who does apart from them two. Sometimes relationships just sort of break down and people drift apart, but sometimes there is just that 'one thing' that brings everything to a head. I think this night out was his.

And is it really possible to move on from a marriage in 8 weeks, as Kate says she has done?

I don't know the answer to that one, everyone's different after all. She doesn't seem like the sort of person who would sit crying into her pillow at night, maybe she's just coping the best way she knows how - by getting on with things. If they were having significant problems perhaps they'd already 'emotionally' split from each other. For example, I was with an abusive partner for a time, and although it took me some time to leave I knew months before I actually made the break that I wanted out. For me, breaking up with him just wasn't a big deal, because in my mind I'd already dealt with it and thought through the possible consequences and aftermath. Maybe she'd already considered the possibility on some level that this might happen. Maybe she's just putting up a front, maybe she's not really over it at all despite everything she said. That's a lot of assumptions I'm making :)

Could being so self-reliant, financially secure etc, make it easier to let go?

I think the answer would have to be yes. Not having to worry about paying the bills, where you're going to live etc etc mean you can focus more on your own emotional well being, knowing that at least in the 'practical' sense, you'll be okay.

Does walking away from infidelity/marriage problems, become less of a worry if you have loads and loads of your own money?

I don't think it would hurt less emotionally, but as I said above practically it means there's just far less to worry about.

If you agree with your partner not to go out clubbing, and then go ahead and do it, have you actually made an error in judgement or have you knowingly forced your partners hand?

I think asking your partner to never go out without you again is pretty unreasonable in all honesty. Putting that aside, people shouldn't have to change themselves totally in a relationship. Clubbing is very much part of K's 'image' and 'lifestyle', he must have known that before he married her. Asking her not to do it would be like asking her to never pose topless again. That's just the way she is in a sense. She shouldn't have agreed to it, but lots of us have made the mistake of telling our partners what they want to hear in instances where we are desperate to make things work.

I can see P's side too, she promised not to do something and did it, but I think they should have both realised that when you get to the stage where there is so little trust you don't want your partner to ever go out without you, things need fixing. IMO even if K had never gone out again, I don't really think that would've 'solved' any of their problems, I just think the focus would've just shifted onto different areas.

Can any similarity be drawn from a *celeb* relationship and a *normal* one?

I suppose the emotions involved are exactly the same no matter who you're dating, but I can't help feeling that a 'celeb' relationship would be easier in some respects. Such as, never having to worry about paying the bills, cleaning the house, working overtime to pay the bills so you never see each other. I think it would be less to worry about and (in theory at least!) easier to see each other and spend 'quality time' together.

Having said that, it must be difficult to have your every move photographed and commented on, but then again you can't court the press only on your terms. You either back out of public life as much as is possible or you let it penetrate every aspect in your life. In some respects that was they choice they made.

Hmm, in summary, I can't seem to make up my mind! :)

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